Final School Budget Public Hearing Tonight

The Loudoun County School Board wants to hear what the public thinks of the superintendent’s proposed $1,124.2 billion operating budget.

The board will hold its second and final public hearing on Superintendent Eric Williams’ recommended spending plan tonight, ahead of adopting the fiscal year 2018 budget Thursday evening.

The public hearing begins at 6:30 p.m. at the county school administration building, 21000 Education Court in Ashburn. People interested in speaking at the hearing are asked to contact the superintendent’s office at 571-252-1020 or clerk@lcps.org by 5 p.m. today.

Williams is recommending a budget that is $93.6 million, or 9.1 percent, more than the current fiscal year’s budget.

Two of the priciest line items are related to enrollment growth, which he expects will cost $32.3 million, and employees’ salary and benefits, at $38.7 million. Projections show the school system will grow by almost 3,000 and reach a total student population of 81,622. The budget also includes money to expand full-day kindergarten, improve mental health services in high schools, and increase bus drivers’ pay and hours.

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15 thoughts on “Final School Budget Public Hearing Tonight

  • 2017-01-31 at 1:42 pm
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    Let’s review the facts:

    1. A teacher with a bachelors degree earns more in her career and lifetime than a teacher in Fairfax but yet LCPS demands salary scale increases beyond the normal step increases

    2. Teachers are 3x more likely to transfer from Fairfax to LCPS than the other way around.

    3. Compared to the Norfolk/VB area, our teachers earn $10K+ more per year.

    4. LCPS tells us over 99.5% of our teachers are effective. While many are, nobody believes that number.

    5. But most of all, LCPS had $14M/$24M/$34M in unspent funds at the end of FY14, FY15, and FY16. This means that LCPS couldn’t even use its appropriated funds for its operations activities and needs on the order of $30M+ less than it is requesting.

    The tax rate should be no higher than $1.11 and LCPS’ budget request reduced by $40M.

    • 2017-01-31 at 3:30 pm
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      The pay rate in Norfolk/VB area is completely irrelevant to pay rates in Loudoun County. A nice 3-bedroom home down there is less than $300K, whereas here you’d be spending at lease $500K for something comparable.

      • 2017-02-01 at 10:13 am
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        Mom, so you agree cost of living should be considered in salaries. Most residents of Loudoun work in Fairfax or further in. So the salaries of school employees should be compared to residents of Clarke county, right? It costs $100-200k more to buy a house in Fairfax than Loudoun. Same comparing Clarke to Loudoun. Thus, we shouldn’t even compare LCPS salaries to Fairfax but rather the counties to the west.

        Either way, teachers earn $65k/yr to start with a masters. They top out at over $130k/yr and can retire at the ripe ol’ age of 52 with a $50k/yr pension. Massive salary increases are not only unnecessary but wastes taxpayer money.

        • 2017-02-01 at 5:54 pm
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          1. Median home price in FFX is closer to $50k more.
          2. Masters degree step one with LCPS is $53688. Please don’t do your add ins. I’ve given up on your add-ins. You are purposefully deceiving people with that number.
          3. “Massive” is purely subjective. Especially with someone so hateful of teaching.
          4. Why are you so angrily obsessed with a teacher putting in 30 years and receiving an agreed upon pension? BTW how many teachers in LCPS started at 22? Give us figures.

          • 2017-02-02 at 4:20 pm
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            1. The median home price between Fairfax and Loudoun is much more than $50K. I assume you are a teacher who tells students to support their arguments with facts. Have you ever had a public policy discussion where you brought a single fact to the table? In this chart, a 2600 sq ft home that costs $413K in Stafford county is compared against what a similar home in surrounding counties would cost. The same home in Loudoun would cost $528K. In Fairfax, it would cost $743K. So I was wrong. It actually cost $215K more in Fairfax.

            2. If you don’t want to include the pension contribution (because you are likely financially illiterate), why don’t you go without it. Then, we would support raising the salaries. You can’t just hide 20% of your compensation and expect the public to go along.

            3. Receiving 5% pay raises year after year is outsized in any industry these days.

            4. Why don’t you ask your PIO (perjurer) Wayde Byard to give us figures? Kinda helps to have the corrupt administration withhold data that could be used to show how much compensation teachers really receive, eh?

            Why don’t you all find a financially literate teacher to have this discussion. Or maybe that’s because such teachers would agree with me. I have had teachers approach me at board meetings and urge me to press on with the evaluations. They said some of their peers couldn’t teach their way out of a paper bag.

    • 2017-01-31 at 8:24 pm
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      SGP – here are facts you neglected to include: teachers work hard, teachers work many hours a week (much beyond the contracted hours); teachers work unpaid over the summer and on weekends; teachers pay for their own training, supplies, and certifications; teacher’s earn much less that if they had not chosen to go into education; many teachers saw only a $10-$20 a week increase in take home pay these past several years; and so much more.

  • 2017-01-31 at 8:56 pm
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    SGP – in additional to what Careerswitcher posted above, you also need to check your facts regarding the comparison of salaries between Fairfax and Loudoun county teachers. While it is true that a teacher with a bachelor’s degree may begin at a higher salary in Loudoun county (Less than a $2,000 difference), by the time the teacher has been in the profession for six years, the Fairfax salary has surpassed Loudoun’s and the difference just keeps increasing. It’s extremely frustrating how ignorant general public is about the teaching profession.

    • 2017-02-01 at 9:46 am
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      lpetchen, a teacher in Fairfax with a bachelors degree tops out at about $87K. The Loudoun teacher with a bachelors degree continues on to $94K. Not only will she earn $7K/year more from age ~48 onward, but she will earn $3.5K/yr more for the life of her pension.

      It’s extremely frustrating how ignorant teachers are about the compensation they receive.

      • 2017-02-01 at 7:20 pm
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        You can’t compare teacher salaries from different counties based on a salary chart showing a 23-year career teacher (Fairfax) and a 30-year teacher (Loudoun). If you would add another 7 years to that Fairfax teacher, that teacher would still end up with a higher salary than a Loudoun County teacher.

        Your fact-twisting on salary information (which is quite clear and easy to find) and obvious disdain for teachers clearly demonstrates a misconception about the profession that is so wide-spread and demoralizing. I am willing to bet that anyone believes teachers don’t deserve their “high” salaries has rarely volunteered on a regular basis in a classroom.

        • 2017-02-02 at 4:11 pm
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          Ipetchen, are you a teacher? If so, you should be fired for being unable to read a chart.

          A 40-yr teacher in Loudoun is paid on Step 30. A 23-year/30-year/40-year teacher with a Bachelors in Fairfax are ALL paid on Step 23. The fact that you don’t understand this but are somehow teaching our kids scares the bejeesus out of parents.

          I will take your bet. How much shall we wager? $1000?

          • 2017-02-02 at 7:26 pm
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            SGP – You do realize that if you transfer here from a different district, you do not get credit for all your years. So, for you hypothetical above to be relative, that teacher would have to work here all 40 years – how many teachers with 40 years at LCPS are there?

            The problem with all your numbers is that they do not reflect reality. You scare the bejeesus out of me in the way you fixate on a non-existent problem (teachers earning too much) while having visions of grandeur.

          • 2017-02-07 at 7:05 am
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            I am nota teaccher, just a parent and school volunteer who has been involved with our school system for 18 years. Your negative and insulting comments do more to alienate you from others rather than promote any goal you’re trying to accomplish. The step system in fairfax may “top out” at step 23, however, teachers can and do continue to receive COLAs based on budget approvals. Step increases are also tied to proposed budgets being approved. I am done here. You do not want to have a discussion, you want to bully people. As I said earlier, your disdain for our public school educators is evident.

    • 2017-02-01 at 6:36 pm
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      He doesn’t care. He despises teachers and wants them to earn less. He’s demeaning and self-righteous at every turn. Don’t engage. He obsesses over lawsuits and comment sections. When you grow tired of engaging he will claim victory. He’s impossible.

      • 2017-02-02 at 4:13 pm
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        90s Loudouner, or for once in your life, you could try to argue with facts and data rather than just saying “pay me more, I want it”. Maybe saying measure my effectiveness and everyone will support higher pay is a first start. But everyone knows most teachers never want to be measured.

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