Loudoun Supervisors to Consider Public Property Gun Ban

Supervisors will consider tonight, Sept. 1, whether to launch work to keep guns out of publicly owned spaces like county government buildings, libraries, recreation centers, and parks.

The county was granted the authority to do so during the latest General Assembly session. At least three other Northern Virginia localities have already begun implementing this new rule—Alexandria has already adopted an ordinance, and Arlington and Fairfax Counties are in the process.

The proposal has attracted fresh demonstrations.

On Sunday, Loudoun Moms Demand Action held a rally in Leesburg urging supervisors to use their new authority.

Organizers said they held the event Sunday, and not the day of the meeting, to avoid attracting armed counterdemonstrators to an event where participants had brought their children.

“Loudoun residents should be free to utilize government buildings, take their kids to parks, playgrounds and rec centers without having to worry about concealed firearms,” said Elizabeth Coppage. “We know that allowing firearms in places where children play, at festivals, or crowded demonstrations puts us all at risk.”

“Today we stand to tell the county, the state and the country that we believe citizens have the right to go to park, public and private preschools, public buildings, such as libraries and recreational centers, public meetings and to permitted events without fear that they will be the victim s of a Virginia Beach or Las Vegas mass shooting,” said Supervisor Juli E. Briskman (D-Algonkian). She said she will ask her colleagues to begin the work of creating the new rule Tuesday night.

A pro-gun rally is planned during the Board of Supervisors meeting this evening at 5 p.m.

16 thoughts on “Loudoun Supervisors to Consider Public Property Gun Ban

  • 2020-09-01 at 3:29 pm

    It is clear that Ms. Coppage and Ms. Briskman live in an alternate reality. Posting a “no guns” sign does not make anyone safer in a library or park or festival or demonstration. In fact banning self-defense makes everyone defenseless and more vulnerable to criminals who will now be certain that all patrons in these locations are unarmed and easy victims.

    Remember the woman who was mugged on the WO&D trail? How about the woman attacked at Ida Lee? Were they safe? Would they be safer with a “no guns” policy that criminals would simply ignore just like the laws against mugging and armed robbery and breaking and entering?

    Remember Katherine Nixon who was gunned down in a public building in Virginia Beach? She couldn’t protect her life that day due to such a “no gun” policy. She was defenseless against her murderer who broke several laws that day and very likely would not have been concerned about a “no gun” policy.

    If you have been to a park or library or county office in the last few years you were probably in the presence of a responsibly armed citizen. And you never knew it. And you managed to survive that “close encounter.”

    All citizens have a right to keep and bear arms to insure their own safety. The police aren’t everywhere at once. The police have no legal duty to protect you anywhere under any circumstances. You are your own first responder. If you abrogate that responsibility, you are placing yourself at the mercy of every criminal who crosses your path.

  • 2020-09-01 at 3:33 pm

    “we believe citizens have the right to go to park, public and private preschools, public buildings, such as libraries and recreational centers, public meetings and to permitted events without fear that they will be the victim s of a Virginia Beach or Las Vegas mass shooting”

    Every single time I read a Briskman quote is a giant facepalm moment.

    The Las Vegas shooting was done from a hotel room, so nothing such a measure would have even addressed, much less avoided.

    But even more cringeworthy: it was already illegal to carry on Virginia Beach city property. In other words, the only thing Briskman did by saying that was to prove that such measures don’t actually prevent shootings.

    Each time I read a Briskman quote, I am convinced a little bit more that she is simply incapable of rational thought. How did she get elected i the first place?

  • 2020-09-01 at 4:02 pm

    You mean, according to Finger Lady, all we have to do is pass prohibitions on fellow citizens lawfully licensed by the courts to carry a firearm, and all mass shootings will be eliminated? As in.. Foreveh? Who knew?

    Finger Lady and her fellow civil rights haters live a rich fantasy life.

  • 2020-09-01 at 4:09 pm

    The criminals will be watching this vote closely tonight!

    Briskman and Coppage actually think that criminals will honor the “No Firearms” signage.

    Please stand firm Mr Buffington. This is a terrible proposal.

  • 2020-09-01 at 4:38 pm

    Ah, more geniuses who think “Gun Free Zones” will make them safer.

    The data resoundingly points to the exact opposite.

  • 2020-09-01 at 4:52 pm

    The thought of bozos like the teenager that recently murdered two people can carry military assault weapons into libraries and the Board meetings is insane. Literally insane. Only in crazy third rate and third world nations would such a thing even take place. This solely American malady needs to be corrected now. If you personally feel the need, in Loudoun County, to arm like an Army Ranger than I suggest you need help with your paranoia. The gun worshipping cult here, never contemplated by the real settlers three centuries ago, has caused nothing but harm but windfalls for ammunition and weapons manufacturers. Why we cannot emulate Australia which acted as adults after their last mass murder decades ago is beyond me. I don’t see their nation overrun by criminals, I see NO mass killings is what I see there. I see death by firearms here as one of our highest causes of fatalities.

    I pray one day we grow-up and use weapons to hunt, target practice and if you feel you must, protect your home from the Mongolian Hordes of Loudoun. Just do not hold your handgun limply in your hand like a TV show prop that I see all the time now on the news, far too many gun owners obviously need serious training and it is clear they have not carried a deadly weapon as a police officer or in the military.

    • 2020-09-01 at 6:02 pm

      Fairmont, see Coppage’s quote. She is referring to concealed weapons.

      If this was about banning long guns or even open carry of handguns, it would be one thing. This is about banning concealed weapons.

      The questions are:
      1/ if someone wants to shoot people the way Briskman describes (Vegas and Virginia Beach shootings), how is the proposed measure going to prevent such crimes? It certainly didn’t work in VA Beach where carrying on city property was already outlawed. Vegas was private property so her argument is irrelevant.
      2/ More pragmatically:
      – How exactly is this going to be enforced? By definition if you carry a concealed weapon, no one can see it.
      – What is the expected benefit not already covered under state law? If you display it, you are brandishing, which on the properties suggested here is already a class 6 felony in Virginia (18.2-282). Anything else you are going to do with it is most likely going to bring additional felony charges under existing state statutes.

    • 2020-09-01 at 7:54 pm

      You should really go back again and check Australian mass murders.
      Mass shootings still occur there. But now they’re interspersed with arson attacks, mass stabbings, and vehicle attacks.
      Evil acts against innocents occur in every corner of the globe. This is part of the human condition.
      If you need more proof, please review the horrific mass stabbings that Japan suffers.

    • 2020-09-02 at 11:11 am

      Legal gun owners already have answered your prayers. I hunt, target practice and protect my family like millions of legal gun owners. We need to go after the criminals using illegal guns, not make law abiding citizens criminals.

  • 2020-09-01 at 5:09 pm

    Banning firearms on public property only increases the sitting duck percentage. Nothing else!

  • 2020-09-01 at 6:21 pm

    How stupid is our Board of Supervisors? We do not need more regulation on the law abiding gun owner, it is the no law abiding gun owner aka the criminal they need to focus on.

    • 2020-09-01 at 11:19 pm

      Really stupid. They have publicly proclaimed they are the smartest, ever, super duper double dog dare, smartest ever people on the planet,,.. at least Phyllis Randall said that. In the pages of this paper.

      Out of touch with the real world. it’s who they are.

  • 2020-09-02 at 9:09 am

    This insanity has to stop. Gun laws primarily hinder law abiding citizens from carrying a concealed weapon and protecting themselves and others. Gun laws do not and will not stop bad people. People are so jaded, like some of the people that comment here. Educate yourselves people. If it isn’t guns bad people will find other ways to hurt/kill people. The BOS, like the democrats in this state (most not from here) are only pushing an extremist agenda.

  • 2020-09-02 at 11:04 am

    The BOS wants to take away law abiding citizens ability to protect themselves(making them criminals) while taking over control of the Loudoun PD and most likely defunding it like the lunatic left. Yet they vote themselves daycare for their children while closing our schools and libraries. Want more government control in your lives? Vote democrat.

  • 2020-09-03 at 10:08 am

    If the level of worry and fear the democrats elude to in this article is real, those with such level of fear and worry would never leave their home basement and would likely be in need of professional psychiatric help. The truth is that the is no general community fear and worry exhibited by Loudoun County residents in moving about its parks and government buildings.

    Baseless and groundless rationale to offered up by democrats to start chipping away at the prosperity and safety of loudoun county established by a legacy of conservative leadership. Those democrats who are full of fear and worry should flee Loudoun and go to communities with a history of generations of democratic leadership, so they can wander about daily in those community wide gun free zones without any worry or fear for their (or their children’s) safety.

    Ironically the only time democrats seem to champion police is when using them for their own personal protection and harassing/arresting upstanding members of the community who are legal gun owners. It is likely if the democrat BOS power grab is successful in making law enforcement in loudoun report to the BOS, harassing gun owners will be a top police priority (and stopping and solving crime cases less so). As it is well known in our country, violent thugs loot, burn, and kill under pretense of protests in democrat controlled communities, and democrats react to that violence by calling off and defunding the police. Are there not any parents with children in those communities with fear and worry? Why are not democrats in those cities embolden and driven to action by those parents fear and worry, like they doing *claiming* to be doing here in Loudoun?

    Wake up Loudoun. Wake up America.

  • 2020-09-08 at 9:45 pm

    This is virtue signaling at its worst. What problem are these mental midgets trying to solve?

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