Letter: FW Lillis, Leesburg 

Editor: This is in response to a letter sent to constituents by Del. Dave LaRock. In it, he states that some countries with high rates of vaccinations, are finding that those who are fully vaccinated are more frequently infected than those who are not vaccinated. The Children’s Health Defence is cited as source. This is an anti-vaccination group, which approaches this matter with a strong bias and is therefore unscientific; selecting self-serving studies and avoiding others. That data is flawed.

It seems to me that studies from our CDC concerning our nation would be more applicable—and credible. CDC data show that the number of cases is rising, as well as the number of hospitalizations. And, that the unvaccinated are driving this rise and filling the hospitals. This is current data and demonstrates effectiveness of vaccination. 

Del. LaRock’s last sentence is troubling. In it, using the dubious data from the Children’s Health Defence, he questions the effectiveness of the vaccines and asks if the vaccines are to blae for the rising number of infections. If he has scientific proof, he should prepare to show it now. All reputable studies demonstrate protection.  

Del. LaRock’s reasoning is troubling, but also irresponsible and dangerous.  

We would not be having this discussion if all were vaccinated. Fighting this virus without the vaccine is like fighting a fire without water.

Get the jab.

FW Lillis, Leesburg 

18 thoughts on “Letter: FW Lillis, Leesburg 

  • 2021-08-09 at 11:27 am
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    Because the CDC has been the paradigm of trustworthiness and science. Pulllleeessee.

    Trust yourself, educate yourself, consult with your doctor, and make your own decisions. The CDC and the rest of the “experts” have knowingly lied to us for 18 months. They want us living from threat to threat in terror to control us.

    • 2021-08-09 at 3:40 pm
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      Yes, those CDC folks are out to control us! Finally they have an alleged pandemic to enact their will on us! They are implanting a chip in us through that shot and we’ll be CDC slaves soon enough. Our tin foil hats are no match for an implanted chip…

      • 2021-08-10 at 11:16 am
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        You actually believe there’s a tiny chip in the vaccine Mr. Gordan? Astonishing. You probably believe that cloth face mask protect you from a virus as well.

        • 2021-08-11 at 10:21 am
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          I hate those masks: they make me gag. I’m willing to watch a few thousand people perish so I don’t fog up my ray bans.

    • 2021-08-09 at 11:41 pm
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      4,300,185 deaths worldwide and the experts have been lying to us for 18 months. Wow. Can’t pull the wool over your eyes.

      —> “They want us living from threat to threat in terror to control us.”
      Really? Why would “they” do that? And how did the entire world get bamboozled? The only thing controlling us is COVID-19.

      BTW, the “experts” are the ones who devised a vaccine. Do you reject that as well?

      • 2021-08-10 at 11:49 am
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        No one denies the deaths JG. Your histrionics aside, you can choose to let a virus rule your life, or not. It’s never ever going away. It will continue to mutate, just as all other virus’ do. You may choose to cower under the bed (it’ll find you anyway), or you can decide to live your life with reasonable precautions of your choosing.

        What we don’t need are governmental agencies who can’t keep their story straight, have always been flighty when it comes to being honest with the people, or, are just outright withholding information in order to appease a creepy control freak political agenda.
        Take a look at your home state of New Jersey; It has the highest death rate per thousand in the nation, despite imposing harsh lock downs that crushed small business, crushed education, not to mention the still to be realized mental impacts on people. NY is next, followed by Mass. What did going full gestapo get them?

        Make decisions that are best for you JG. Be skeptical of un-named “experts” telling you how to live your life. I think former President Obama had it perfectly right at his three day birthday bash this past weekend: Live your life to the fullest the way you see fit.

        • 2021-08-10 at 4:13 pm
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          —> “They want us living from threat to threat in terror to control us.”
          Sounds like paranoia to me.

          —> “you can choose to let a virus rule your life”
          Or you can get vaccinated. Problem solved.

          —> “are just outright withholding information in order to appease a creepy control freak political agenda”
          There’s that paranoia again. Fight back. Get vaccinated.

          —> “despite imposing harsh lock downs that crushed small business, crushed education, not to mention the still to be realized mental impacts on people”
          Remember the pandemic? You know, the one that killed over 600,000 people in the US? That number would have been well over a million had we not mitigated spread through masks and social distancing. Over 11,600 people have died in VA. Without some form of lockdown, we would be at 40,000 and counting.

          Miraculously, we have created a safe and effective vaccine to combat this and allow businesses and schools to reopen and yet, thanks to narrow-minded people, we will never achieve herd immunity.

          —> ” I think former President Obama had it perfectly right at his three day birthday bash this past weekend”
          Yes, he got it right – restraint.

          “The party, held in the backyard of the couple’s Martha’s Vineyard mansion, was scaled back because of concerns about the rapid spread of COVID-19, Obama’s office said last week.”

          “Due to the new spread of the delta variant over the past week, the President and Mrs. Obama have decided to significantly scale back the event to include only family and close friends.”

          Oh BTW, the Obamas got vaccinated back in early March.

          If people get vaccinated, variants would not have a chance to develop.

          —-> “Make decisions that are best for you JG”
          Make decisions that are best for all of us. We do not live in a vacuum.

          • 2021-08-11 at 11:23 am
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            “If people get vaccinated, variants would not have a chance to develop.”

            You truly have no idea how a virus works JG. If it were that easy, there would be no common cold or flu.

          • 2021-08-11 at 11:31 am
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            How does getting vaccinated result in “problem solved?
            Please explain, and be as specific as possible.

          • 2021-08-11 at 5:01 pm
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            JerseyGirl’s response is exactly what I would expect from some from Jersey. Get the vaccination problem solved. Tell that to vaccinated people who have gotten the Delta variant. As someone from NYC we tend to ignore girls from Jersey unless its after 2:00am.

  • 2021-08-09 at 12:36 pm
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    The technical terms for both Del. Dave LaRock and Children’s Health Defence are “liar” and “menace.”

  • 2021-08-13 at 12:12 pm
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    Exactly Mr. Manthos. Getting vaccinated applies a selection pressure, because mutations that help a virus avoid detection by the vaccinated immune system will have an advantage over versions of the virus that don’t include that mutation. So, a virus that contains that mutation is more likely to reproduce and spread to other people

    • 2021-08-14 at 12:56 pm
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      @val

      …which is why only unvaccinated people are being hospitalized and dying. Are you saying that vaccinated people caused the Delta variant??? Or maybe the massive spread in India (where very few were vaccinated) allowed for a mutation to occur?

      • 2021-08-18 at 8:21 am
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        Put down the new york times for a moment. Vaccinated people are dying and going to the hospital. CDC reports each month a greater percentage of the US population is being vaccinated yet the rate of infection from “variants” is increasing despite this trend. If the unvaccinated are solely responsible for increase in cases, why did the cases decrease previously?

        • 2021-08-18 at 12:06 pm
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          The vast majority of people in the hospital are unvaccinated. Yes, the vaccinated can get sick, but the chances are lower and the symptoms are less severe. The numbers are on the rise because the delta variant is more contagious and the unvaccinated have stopped what little prevention they were doing previously. The vaccinated should wear masks now to protect the people who can’t get the vaccine. Unfortunately the self-centered get to benefit from this too.

        • 2021-08-18 at 6:56 pm
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          @val

          —> “Vaccinated people are dying and going to the hospital. ”
          Usually people go to the hospital before dying. But would love to see your sources that show vaccinated people are being hospitalized or dying. An extremely small number of vaccinated people probably with comorbidities may have been hospitalized and possible even died. It is very clear vulnerable people are the ones being hospitalized or are dying.

          —> “…yet the rate of infection from “variants” is increasing despite this trend”
          Yes. Specifically, the Delta variant which is much more contagious. Vaccinated people may contract COVID asymptomatically which means the vaccine is doing its job. Unvaccinated people are the ones whose infection becomes more severe. Gee, just maybe this is why many hospitals’ ICU units are at capacity.

          —> “If the unvaccinated are solely responsible for increase in cases, why did the cases decrease previously?”
          Vaccinations, masks, social distancing. Once people relaxed preventative measures and the arrival of Delta coupled with the incredible refusal of people to get vaccinated has us losing the battle once again.

  • 2021-08-19 at 1:54 pm
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    Jersey Girl:

    According to the CDC:

    B.1.617.2 (Delta): This variant was first detected in the United States in March 2021. It was initially identified in India in December 2020. These variants seem to spread more easily and quickly than other variants, which may lead to more cases of COVID-19. cases went down after March 2021.

    • 2021-08-19 at 6:27 pm
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      @Val

      Not sure what your point is.

      “The first case in the United States was identified in March, and by early July, it made up more than half of cases tested in the country. It now makes up 83% of US cases, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)”

      So it took over 3 months before it became the dominant strain. During that same time period, vaccinations in the US grew from 15% to 55% of the population. We were getting a hold on COVID until the Delta variant gained traction.

      “The widespread availability of vaccines in the United States helped to reduce cases in the spring and early summer. But the Delta variant has led to a renewed spike in cases and hospitalizations nationwide.”…..Reuters

      To reiterate, 99.5% of all COVID deaths are unvaccinated people; 97% of all hospitalizations are unvaccinated people. Vaccine side-effects across more than 200M people are virtually nil after 8 months. Why is this so hard to understand?

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